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QUICK ASIDE I WOULD APPRECIATE ANY ADVICE ON WHERE TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF DISCUSSIONS - TOOK A LONG BREAK AND CAN'T FIND GOOD BOARDS TO DISCUSS THINGS ANYMORE -------------------------------------- Rather than some vague or unobtainable understanding it's rather simple, it's generations of socialization and schemes for control which obscures this simple truth. It's an understanding expressed as a three part conjugate answer. 1. Survival - Seems rather straight forward, continued existence requires survival and existence is the prerequisite for everything else. Most people do not even understand what this actually means anymore. 2. Evolution towards more complex forms and a higher state of being - This can be observed in the Natural Law of the Universe. There is much more to this but I'll continue on. 3. Qualia and the conscious experience, i.e. meaning and purpose, satisfaction and enjoyment. These are all listed in hierarchical order, each subservient to the former and governed by them, restricting them in any instance they can potentially threaten or destabilize the other. To begin understanding the above, you must first contemplate the difference between information, knowledge, and wisdom or -- understanding. True understanding achieved by insight and introspection, to see into the heart of things and how they connect holistically instead of just isolated individual system.